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Info-Mac Digest             Thu,  8 Apr 93       Volume 11 : Issue 77

Today's Topics:

      [*] FTPd 2.1.0 (comm)
      [*] hqx file for info-mac archives
      [*] pentaminos-05b.hqx
      [*] QuickLoc
      ****WARNING: MACINTAX CALCULATES TAXES INCORRECTLY****
      3-button mouse for Mac LC III (Q)
      A comment about INFO_MAC
      A continuing problem with ICONs (Q)
      Another shareware wish-list
      APS 128 M/O Drive (A)
      APS M/O
      Backsplash (2 msgs)
      bouncing windows between two monitors
      Cannot get files from listserv@ricevm1
      Centris 610 security slots (R)
      Conflict-Catcher demo problems
      Conflict-Catcher Probs...
      diskdoubler-aux-377.hqx (C)
      Ethernet info: summary
      Excel Question
      ftp troubles
      HELP! Cannot access file server
      How to open a WP rather than TeachText by default? (A)
      How to open a WP rather than TeachText by default? (Q)
      HyperCard--some helpful tricks
      If I were only a hacker I know what I would do...
      In defense of the Adjustable Kbd
      I need bracket to put hard drive in LC
      Info-Mac Digest V11 #74
      Info-Mac Digest V11 #75
      Info-Mac Digest V11 #76 (4 msgs)
      In Use 2.0 & CPF incompatibility...
      lf - what is the code for (A) - summary
      MacInTax, doesn't suprise me!
      MacInTax problems (c)
      MacIntercomm Lite (Q) (was Re: Mac's Place (C))
      MacIntosh C Programmers (Q)
      Macintosh Grade Disks
      Mac vs PC Floppies (A)
      MacX,MacTCP and system 7.1
      MacX 1.1.7, MacTCP 1.1.1 and System 7.1 (A)
      Madness
      Modem & Postscript printer recommendations
      My greedy System Heap--Help still needed.
      New Inside Mac Books
      Opinions on Select 300 vs. 310
      Programmers- Get in CNTL!
      RunPC/Remote--experiences?
      Shareware wish list
      Shutdown Extension (Q)
      So, what's a MUD ?
      Software for reading
      Spot-On disk formatting software
      SPSS on Mac (summary & follow-up question)
      System7 Sharing Log (Q)
      Upgrade Mac IIsi
      US software retailers, mail order
      WARNING: MACINTAX (yet another horror story)
      Weirdness with Aliases
      why the lousy password?
      yacc for the Mac

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Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1993 16:30:00 +0800
From: Peter N Lewis <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] FTPd 2.1.0 (comm)

FTPd v2.1.0 and FTPd Setup v2.1.0 is a Macintosh FTP and gopher
server for Macs with MacTCP.  FTPd allows other machines on the
Internet to FTP or Gopher to your Mac.  It requires System 7,
File Sharing enabled, and MacTCP 1.1 (or later).  It honours the
Users&Groups privileges and passwords, and supports multiple logins,
anonymous FTP (user name anonymous or ftp), as well as MacBinary
and BinHex transfers, and the "MACB" FTP command.  It runs either
as a background only application,or as a normal application,
displaying the log file.

Changes since v2.0.1 include:
* Process control via the SITE A command (and ls -t)
* Volume mounting via the SMNT command
* Notification sound for connections .
* Fixed Debilitatin Gopher bug that leaves all the files/folders
inaccessible.
* Bunches of new checkboxes for FTPd Setup
* Revamped Gopher Window in FTPd Setup
* Option to hide log window when in the background.
* Improved security, users and owner MUST log in to at least one local
volume.
* Sort the gopher directory
* Bug fixes.

FTPd is $10 shareware.

Hope you like them,
   Peter. <[e-mail]>

FTPd v2.1.0 and FTPd Setup v2.1.0 Copyright 1992-93 Peter N Lewis

[Archived as /info-mac/comm/ftpd-210.hqx; 240K]

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Date: Wed, 7 Apr 93 10:08:36 EDT
From: backmod (Backup Moderator)
Subject: [*] hqx file for info-mac archives

hypersheepbrain.sit is  a series of Hypercard stacks used for an in-depth
study of the gross anatomy of the sheep brain and related tutorials with
tests.  It allows students to point and click on structures for
identification.  Stacks can be used independently but are best used out of
the same folder and navigation through the "intro" stack.

[Archived as /info-mac/card/sheep-brain.hqx; 1811K]

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Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1993 20:57:43 -0400 (EDT)
From: [e-mail] (Mark Pilgrim)
Subject: [*] pentaminos-05b.hqx

Pentaminos is a game in which you must fit 12 pieces (of 5 squares
each) on a various-sized boards.  Boards range from 8 x 8 (easiest)
to 3 x 20 (most difficult).  There is more than one solution for
each board, so just because you solved it once doesn't mean you
can't still enjoy it!

Until September 1993, you may e-mail solutions, comments, and bug
reports to the author at [e-mail].  If you have no e-mail
access, you may send any of the above to the snail-mail address
given in the program.  (See "How to Pay" under the Help menu.)

Changes in version 0.5B:
- Saving games now works ALL the time.
- You can no longer select squares off the board.
- "Use patterns" has been eliminated.  B/W patterns are now
  "nicer."
- You can now save a completed Pentaminos board as a text file,
  to facilitate electronic transfer of solutions.  Use "Load/Save
  solution" under the File menu.
- Strict self-integrity checking has been added.  The file is also
  impervious to all known file-infecting viruses, so the
  self-integrity check is mainly to make sure that the file has
  not been unintentionally damaged somewhere.

Share and enjoy!

Mark Pilgrim
[e-mail]

[Archived as /info-mac/game/pentaminos-05b.hqx; 72K]

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Date: Wed, 7 Apr 93 21:18:24 -0700
From: [e-mail] (Scott Bronson)
Subject: [*] QuickLoc

AUTHOR: Scott Bronson ([e-mail], [e-mail])
DISTRIBUTION: Free!  Share it with everyone.
COMPATIBILITY: Works fine under all System 7.
SIZE: tiny!  Only 378 bytes of memory and 1,262 bytes of disk space.

QuickLoc is a goofy little utility that, once you get used to it, is
hard to live without.  It simply opens all selected folders whenever the
user hits the return key and closes the frontmost window when the user
hits the delete key.  File names can still be edited by hitting the
enter key (on the keypad).

This INIT has been beta-tested for four months now, and no
incompatibilities or conflicts have reared their ugly heads.  If you
notice any, contact me at the E-mail addresses above and I'll offer what
support I can.

[Archived as /info-mac/ex/quick-loc.hqx; 4K]

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Date: 8 Apr 93 18:12:01 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Comer Matthew Brian)
Subject: ****WARNING: MACINTAX CALCULATES TAXES INCORRECTLY****

I know what this guy is talking about with MacinRipOff (oops, I mean Tax.)
I fought with the program for hours trying to get it to calculate
the Earned Income Credit properly. Finally, after calling their "Tech
Support Line" (hah!) twice, some guy said "Oh, did you have the head-
start version?" to which I replied yes. "Oh, then you need to delete all
of that stuff and reinstall the program since our installer doesn't
seem to work right when the head-start version is present." Huh? Makes
alot of sense, right? (NOT!) So anyway, I did it and some of the problems
went away. But now it tells me that the value in some line is too small
(the # of months my new baby lived in my home) when the correct answer is
one month and that is what I have in there! So I guess I have to change
the kids birthday to make the program happy. I wonder if the county is
going to buy that when I ask for a new birth certificate! Jeez.

Never again! Next year I'm buying the competition.

--
I spent four years prostrate to the higher mind,
Got my papers and I was free...            -Indigo Girls

Matt Comer     [e-mail]

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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 93 12:45:11 EDT
From: Tony Silva <[e-mail]>
Subject: 3-button mouse for Mac LC III (Q)

Does anyone know of a 3-button mouse with the necessary s/w for a Mac
LC III? I'd like to have one for running MacX or eXodus. I bought a
Mouse Systems A3 mouse whose CDEV works ok on a Quadra but not on my
LC III.  Please respond directly and I will summarize. TIA.

Tony Silva, Atlantic Aerospace Elec. Corp., [phone], [e-mail]

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Date: 8 Apr 1993 10:57:10 EST
From: "Jeff Kline"  <[e-mail]>
Subject: A comment about INFO_MAC

I have a Question/Comment about Info-Mac.  It seems that over the
past few months that I have asked at least 5-10 questions and have
gotten maybe 1 suggestion per question, Sometimes none.  The
questions have ranged from Hypercard to system questions.  Is this a
trend?  Has anyone else had this problem? Or is it just the way i
write questions.


Jeff Kline

[e-mail]

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Date: 8 Apr 1993 10:54:59 EST
From: "Jeff Kline"  <[e-mail]>
Subject: A continuing problem with ICONs (Q)

I posted a question about having problems with Icons disappearing.
Well my problems have not changed, but I have tried some new
solutions with no avail. I will restate:

My system is:  Mac SE, 20 mb  internal, 4 megs of ram, system 7.0
with tuneup 1.1.1.  External HD (APS 105 mb), with 2 partions, one
for system stuff, the other for applications and documents.      CPs
and EXs are:  Cp Scheduler Extension, EM Extnsion, Bongo Bob,
Deskwriter Driver   3.1, Kermit Tool GH, NoBaloon Menu, System 7
tuner 1.1.1 , Vt102   Tool, xmodem tool , Cp antivirus Control
Panel, Cp DriveLight,  Mirror Control panel, Aliasmenu, Escapade,
MICN ,Mouse2, PopChar, SuperClock, MacsBug

The problems:   A few days ago I installed The Control Panel
AliasMenu   from Benoit Wideman (sp?).  My Icons disappeared in the
finder and became generic.  I had also just installed a faceless
background app called tinysaver 2.x and a extension named Sniff
which I have already trashed.  The problem has been that the ICONs
for SOME files (I really cannot figure the pattern out)  have become
generic.  The files are all apps and docs on the Applications
Partion of the 105 mb APS hard Drive.

Well, since then I have attempted to isolate the problem.

If I rebuild my   desktop files the ICONS are back, until I startup
the next time.

If  I force quit the finder they come back when the finder reloads,
but  do not come back after a restart.  (I now know that i should
not Force Quit the finder)

Turning off Alias Menu, and   TinySaver do not seem to effect these
things.

I ran mactools 2.0 and fixed some bundles and some dates, and still
the same pattern.

I took someones advice and deleted the desktop Files and DB (Used
ResEdit to rename and then moved to force a re-create).  Worked
wonderful, ICONs came back until I did a restart, then no ICONs.

I Did the same thing above, but first I started with the Shift Key
down then restarted after deleting the Desktop Files.  No luck

I restarted with the shiftKey down and just rebuilt the Partion with
the System file on it and the ICOns come back, but on restart there
gone again.

I deleted the desktop files for the partion with the sysytem file on
it then restarted with the shiftKey down and just rebuilt the
Partion with the System file on it and the ICOns come back, but on
restart they're gone again.

I reinstalled the System files from the source disks (without first
deleting the system files) and then rebuilt the Icons showed, but
upon restart ....

I ran mactools again and the same problems cropped up, a few bundle
bits (not very many, and they did not correspond to the Missing ICON
files) and a few dates, no fix though.

My goal currently is to get the machine to restart with the ICONs
without any INITS or CPs.  After that i can figure out the potential
Conflicts.

I would appreciate any suggestions you might have, this is driving
me nuts!!!!!

Thanks for the Info    Please E-mail me direct

Jeff Kline    [e-mail]

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Date: 8 Apr 1993 13:49:23 CST
From: "Harry Hahn"  <[e-mail]>
Subject: Another shareware wish-list

A recent posting of a shareware wish-list gave me the courage to
post my own:

1) I once tried a DA called QuoterDA or something that put those ">"
symbols in front of e-mail quotes. I didn't need it at the time so I
trashed it but now I really could use it. Anyone know where I could
find it, or even better a current substitute (this was 2-3 years
ago)?

2) I'm surprised that no one has thought of this (or maybe they
have) but how about an extension that will allow a "Quit All"
feature? It's nice to have a lot of applications open but when it
comes time to quit them, having to go to the application menu,
select the application, and then quit for each one gets to be a
chore. It seems simple enough now with AppleEvents to accomplish
this. Any programmers out there willing to prove me right?

3) Lastly: there was a recent discussion on text editors here on
info-mac about text editors and BBEdit was highly recommended.
There's just one thing I don't like about BBEdit though and that is
lines don't wrap at the end of the window, they just continue on and
on. I hate scrolling horizontally! Sure, a "Wrap" command will chop
up these lines to window length but it does so by inserting carriage
returns. McSink/Vantage have the same problem. What I want is
something with autowrapping like (gasp!) TeachText or TexEdit. I
like TexEdit a lot but it's limited to 32K files (and IM digests are
usually longer ;)). Is there something out there with both features:
autowrapping and the ability to open >32K files?  As it is now, I
use McSink to open large files, TexEdit to compose my own, and
BBEdit just for the hell of it. Three text-editors open at the same
time :). And, oh yeah, it has to be small and fast ;).

Yeah, I know. I want it all. But gadgets are what make the Macintosh
great.

Peace,
Harry Hahn
[e-mail]     |
UW-Madison, Dept. of AH&BS  |

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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1993 11:31:25 -0700
From: [e-mail] (Tony Huang)
Subject: APS 128 M/O Drive (A)

>Date: Wed, 07 Apr 93 19:03:21 EDT
>From: "Allan M. Bloom" <[e-mail]>
>Subject: APS 128 M/O Drive (C)

>Folks, I mentioned a couple days back that APS -- one of the reputable
>firms -- had dropped its price on an external 128M M/O drive to $999.
>I ordered it. It arrived yesterday. Last night I was ready to send it

>back. The unit itself is fine, but the software that APS bundled sucks
>toads. That can be sort of fun in parts of the South.
>
>With the APS software, I could not put a disc in the drive and see it
>unless I invoked the CP and ordered a mount. They included SCSI Probe,
>so I could use it instead of the APS CP and do a splat-spacebar to
>mount the disc. Yes, I'm using the "CD" nomenclature here. Don't rag on
>me for mis-spelling.
>
>I used the Alliance Power Tools to format the discs (I ordered a 10-pack
>and got a $40 price for each). Took a half hour for each disc.
>
>I played a bit. Copied a file from my HD to the M/O disc. Fast. Then I
>trashed the file. Then I selected empty trash. Marvelous! The M/O disk
>ejected, I was invited to insert my HD (a bit hard to do), and after I
>declined to do same, I was asked to insert the M/O disc. Only then could
>I empty the trash.
>
>That isn't the best part. I finally got tired of messing around and told
>the Mac to shut down. Nope. Thoroughly frozen system somewhere during the
>shutdown process. Gee I was pleased with that APS M/O system.
>
>After sleeping on the problem, I thought I'd try La Cie's Silver Lining
>software. My relatively ancient 5.4 was very close to salvation. Its
>Silver Init allowed me to stick a disc in the drive and have it show on
>the desktop immediately. Silver Lining itself formatted a disc maybe 5
>times faster than the APS software. I could trash a file normally. I
>could shut down normally. Be still, my heart! The one thing I couldn't do
>was put away a disc and have it ejected. Silver Lining 5.4 sees an M/O
>disc as a hard drive and dims out the auto-eject option.
>
>Big fat hairy deal. I can press the eject button.
>
>I called La Cie. Felt like a proper dolt explaining how I had another
>vendor's hardware but found near salvation in Silver Lining. True, the
>version 5.4 doesn't know about M/O drives, but for ten bucks I can get
>the 5.4.2 version that does.
>
>Do you believe this? The 5.4 version of Silver Lining doesn't know beans
>about an M/O drive, but it does a better job than the dedicated software
>sent by APS?
>
>And I had always felt so warm and fuzzy about APS.
>
>Bottom line? If you don't already have Silver Lining for a previous La
>Cie purchase, I don't think buying an APS M/O drive is a good idea. I'm
>still a few buck better off than if I'd bought the more expensive La Cie
>drive, but that is only because I already am a Silver Lining owner.
>
>I am properly unimpressed with the APS product.
>
>Al Bloom, Virginia Tech

Al, Your problem is caused by incompatible SCSI drivers. It's NOT APS'
fault. Presumably, you had La Cie's auto-mounting INIT installed (that's
why the M/O disc mounted automatically AFTER you reformatted it with
Silverlining). When you insert a disc (or any removable cartridge for that
matter) formatted with an incompatible driver software, it won't
auto-mount. And if you mount it manually with SCSI Probe (or any other
similar utility) and is "successful" (often, the drivers are so
incompatible that you get a message saying the disc is unreadable), your
system is certain to crash at some point. The solution to this problem is
to, as you've already found out, format the removables with the same driver
software you used for your HD. Alternatively, you can REPLACE your
auto-mounting INIT (that comes with Silverlining, or whatever) with SCSI
Probe, and select "Close Driver After Ejecting" in the Option dialog box.
With this approach, you have to mount removables manually with SCSI Probe
(or whatever). This second approach is obviously less desirable (especially
if you own a universal SCSI formatter). However, it's the only solution at
the moment if you also use removables formatted by other people.

Tony Huang
[e-mail]

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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 93 09:00:40 PDT
From: [e-mail] (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: APS M/O

In Regards to your letter <[e-mail]>:
> Folks, I mentioned a couple days back that APS -- one of the reputable
> firms -- had dropped its price on an external 128M M/O drive to $999.
> I ordered it. It arrived yesterday. Last night I was ready to send it
> back. The unit itself is fine, but the software that APS bundled sucks
> toads. That can be sort of fun in parts of the South.

The one thing I don't see in your tale of woe is calling APS tech
support, Al. I'm not excusing the APS Power Tool software at all,
but I think it's only fair that you call the people who are in charge
of it and see if you're running into a known problem. I somehow doubt
that everyone who buys an APS M/O just puts up with freezes on shut
down and the other serious problems you mentioned. APS is generally
proud of their tech support staff - I think it's only fair that you
talk to them before toasting APS on the net.

And no, I don't use APS Power Tools on my two APS hard drives and
one APS SyQuest. I use Silverlining because when I bought my first
APS drive, Silverlining was far more advanced than Power Tools. It
appears that it still is. :-)

cheers ... -Adam

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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1993 17:49:07 -0400 (EDT)
From: LAN Supervisor <[e-mail]>
Subject: Backsplash


> Does anyone know about this program for using a PICT file as a desktop
> background. I read about it in Mac User and I believe it is available from
> Ziff Net but I do not have any access to that source. Would some kind soul
> like to e mail it to me if that is legal.

I haven't heard of Backsplash, but there are other extensions that do the
same.  Try downloading DeskPict! from the /ex directory.

Josephine Colmenares / Fordham University
[e-mail] / [e-mail]

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Date: Thu, 08 Apr 93 22:06:20 EDT
From: "Allan M. Bloom" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Backsplash

Here I go again. Colin McLaughlin asked about the Backsplash extension,
mentioned in a recent MacUser, that is available on CompuServe's ZMAC.
It does for System 7 what DeskPict did in prior system incarnations. It
replaces your dull grey desktop with a PICT. I had not been impressed
with other goodies that let you do 16x16 (or whatever) patterns over the
desktop. It seemed to be the best one could do under System 7. It didn't
seem worth the bother.

Backsplash is slick! I heartily recommend it to any of y'all who have CI$
and ZMAC accounts. It may not work first time out of the chute. I fed it
a PICT version of one of my 640x480 256-color startup screens (Grimmy
humping a leg, titled "Safe Sex"), and it semi-choked. Told me that it
ran out of memory, but it'd request more next time and would I please
restart. Did fine. Much better than the old DeskPict, which occasionally
would not repaint the screen properly and left interesting results.

Backsplash, like Gates Does Windows, cannot be uploaded to any service.
Sorry, troops. But, as I inferred and as Adam verified, ZMAC does not at
all mind "retail" distribution. If you would like a copy, send me a note.
I'll be happy to oblige. Please don't ask me to set the file up on one
of our anonymous ftp sites here at Virginia Tech. That would violate the
restrictions. Retail only. No wholesale.

Al Bloom, Virginia Tech

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Date: 08 Apr 1993 14:30:53 -0400 (EDT)
From: O MH KATA MHXANHN <[e-mail]>
Subject: bouncing windows between two monitors

Does there exist a utility which will permit one to
move at a single keystroke (or click) a window from
one monitor to another (on the same system, of course)?
Some programs "remember" where a window was in the previous
session and place it there automatically; others always go
to the upper left corner. Is there help for the user of
such "forgetful" programs?

Gratefully,

Bill McCarthy
Wash., D.C.

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Date: Thu, 08 Apr 93 16:52:14 CDT
From: "Mark R. Williamson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Cannot get files from listserv@ricevm1

In Info-Mac Digest Volume 11 Issue 76 Daniel van Kraalingen said:
>Recently two new programs were announced to be present on the server
>machine, conflict-catcher and a new version of NIH. However, I have not
>been able to obtain them through an e-mail request over internet to
>listserv@ricevm1. Also the $macarch.contents file does not mention the
>existence of these programs. What am I doing wrong ??

Only asking for them before our shadow archive synchronizer had a chance
to copy them from the master archive at sumex-aim.stanford.edu, due to a
timing problem between Stanford and Rice.  The file was added to the
master archive on the 5th at 11:22 California time.  For some reason,
it appears that Stanford did not regenerate help/all-files.txt at the
usual time, so when our synchronizer ran on the 6th at 04:00 Texas time
it did not see any changes from the previous day.  On the 7th it saw them
and downloaded (most of) them, but by then you had already tried to get
them.  In fact, your request got here even before the update for the 6th
was finished (at 04:21 on the 6th), so even if there had been no trouble
with the synchronization on the 6th you would not have found them.

The moral of this story is that shadow archives cannot be identical with
their master archives all the time, so please be a little patient.  Try
again now.

By the way, does anybody have a spare IBM 3380J4 or K4 they would care
to donate to hold our shadow archive?  We only have room for about 2/3
of the current contents of the master archive, and are not likely to be
able to dedicate more of our existing disk farm to this purpose.  We
have been pruning our holdings manually, but it's getting harder to keep
up with the additions.  If you get a message containing "*NOTHELD *NOROOM"
when you request a file, we've filled up again.

Mark R. Williamson, Rice University, Houston, TX; [e-mail]
Coordinating BITNET redistribution of Info-Mac archive files from Rice.

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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 93 06:43:50 PDT
From: [e-mail] (John Thoo)
Subject: Centris 610 security slots (R)


On Wed, 07 Apr 93 John McKinley <[e-mail]> asked:
> The Centris 610 has a little hole on the back with the "chain" symbol. This
> hole is about 10mm x 5mm (ie 1/2" x 1/4" approx). Is there a security kit
> which fits this?

I'nm not sure, but Kensington has a product called `MicroSaver Sercurity
System' that might be what you're looking for.  It's available from several
mail-order places, e.g. Mac'sPlace (1-800-367-4222 or FAX [phone]
or <[e-mail]>).  Hope this helps.

--John.
J. B. THOO, Math Dept, Univ of California, Davis <[e-mail]>

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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 93 09:16:17 -0400
From: "Steve Marsh"  <[e-mail]>
Subject: Conflict-Catcher demo problems

It seems that Conflict Catcher (demo) needs an introspective algorithm so
that it can catch itself creating conflicts!

Bootstrappingly yours,

- Steve Marsh  "[e-mail]"   ;-)

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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1993 08:49:15 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Jeffrey L. Robbin)
Subject: Conflict-Catcher Probs...

[e-mail] writes:

>Yeah.  Downloaded CC and inserted into System Folder (6.0.8).  Restart
>attempt bombed.  Renamed Conflict Catcher adding blank spaces in front
>to make it load first, zzzzz's to make it load last, etc.  Bombed.
>Opened System Folder and pulled out every INIT and Cdev (except for
>Apple thingies like "Keyboard") and restarted.  Bombed.  Actually
>thought about transferring all DA's to a holding file & erasing from
>System, then said, naaah.  Decided I knew what was causing the conflict.
>Removed Conflict Catcher from System Folder.  Trashed Conflict Catcher.
>Put back all INITs and CDevs.  Restarted.  End of problem for now.
>End of beta test, too.  Nice idea, tho...post again when it runs right.

>- Allan Hunter
> <ahunter@sbccvm>
> <[e-mail]>

I am unaware of any problems like this occurring on any other systems.  There
are two possibilities that I'd ask you to try to solve this problem.  The only
two features of Conflict Catcher that could cause a problem like this are
the reordering and the icon wrapping.  Both of these options are able to be
turned off from the preferences in the Control Panel.  Please try to disable
the reordering and try again.  Without reordering on, Conflict Catcher does
not patch any traps, and the other features still function.  You can write to
me directly if you wish.

Jeff Robbin
Casady & Greene, Inc.
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 7 Apr 93 21:15:22 PDT
From: [e-mail] (John Thoo)
Subject: diskdoubler-aux-377.hqx (C)

How's this for a funny one?  I needed to extract a DiskDoubler archive,
so I searched <sumex-aim> and found [diskdoubler-aux-377.hqx].  The
header reads, in part,

  The DiskDoubler* auxiliary files consist of the following files
  for the Macintosh.
  ...
  2. DD Expand*.sea       (contains the expand only version of DD)
  ...


Great---NOT!  After I downloaded [diskdoubler-aux-377.hqx]  and de-hqx'd
it, I discovered that it wasn't a SEA, but a DD archive, i.e. I was back
to square one!  :-)

--John.
J. B. THOO, Math Dept, Univ of California, Davis <[e-mail]>

------------------------------

Date: 07 Apr 1993 22:46:24 -0400 (EDT)
From: "David C. Garrett" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Ethernet info: summary

A big THANK YOU to all who responded to my questions about Ethernet:
Merv Connell, Jennifer Spielberger, Chris Webster, Wade Williams,
Allan M. Bloom, Stephen Wall, J. T. Green, and Tom Killian.  Here's
what I learned.

Setting up a 10BaseT network is disgustingly easy.  You need a network
hub.  Each Macintosh needs an Ethernet card (unless it comes with
Ethernet built in).  Each Mac needs a 10BaseT transceiver (unless the
card comes with that built in).  And each Mac needs its own cable
(unshielded twisted pair, or UTP cable), to go from the transceiver to
the network hub.

See, 10BaseT works in a star configuration, with each Mac like a spoke
on a wheel, with the hub in the center.  It's not like AppleTalk,
which uses a bus configuration: one to the next to the next, in a
chain.  If you want a bus configuration (which can cut down on
spaghetti) then look into thinnet (10Base2, which uses coaxial cable).

Here's an excerpt from Stephen Wall's message:

> EtherTalk [(the software network driver)] comes standard as part of
> the Mac Operating System.  It may or may not have been installed on
> all of your CPUs prior to delivery.   You can find out easily by
> opening the Network control panel on each  machine.  If Ethertalk has
> been installed it'll show up as a networking  option alongside the
> Localtalk (built in) icon.  If it wasn't installed you  can do it
> yourself by running the installer (reboot with Installer 1 floppy
> inserted), click the "customize" button, and select Ethertalk from the
> (long) list of things to install.

> You may actually find more than one Ethertalk icon in your Network CP,
> and you'll certainly find at least two options if installing it
> yourself. The two icons will probably be for Phase 1 and Phase 2
> Ethertalk.  You'll probably want Phase 2, which is newer and more
> expandible than Phase 1. You can tell the difference by looking at the
> icon.  Phase 2 has a double arrow head pointed left & right.  In phase
> 1 each arrow is single headed.

And this is an excerpt from Tom Killian's letter:

> ...If you do go with the 10baseT, you may also want to look into
> installing jacks.  This makes the setup work and look a lot nicer.
> This works well if the machines are going to spread out.  A good (and
> easy to use) jack is the AMP setup.  They just snap together and they
> are color coded.  We have been using AMP for the past few years here.
> If you need more info on this I can get you the name of our supplier.

> e-mail : [e-mail]
>          [e-mail]

I hope this information is useful.  Feel free to e-mail me with any
questions; I'm no expert but it really is too easy for words.

-Dave   [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1993 11:18:07 -0500 (CDT)
From: Kurt Klaus <[e-mail]>
Subject: Excel Question

The following question was asked of me by a user we support.  If anyone
has any information regarding the following, I would appreciate an answer
via e-mail.

"Does anyone know of a group that uses/collects/promotes Excel spreadsheet
tools?

I'm not talking about ordinary "tables," "databases," or mundane
arithmetic calculations.

I'm asking for MODELS and SIMULATIONS of physical, logical and financial
processes.  And tools that produce complex calculations, automated
schedule "waterfalls," computer software size estimates, linear
programming, etc."

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1993 19:24:26 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Minh Do)
Subject: ftp troubles

I am having a lot of trouble ftping some files from the archives.

/source/c/mac-starter-c.hqx
/source/c/think-c-prog-guide.hqx

The ftp session starts, but never quite finishes.  It just hangs until the
server shuts down.  I have tried a variety of things, and none seem to
work.  Turbogopher says it's not a valid binhex file, and refuses to get
it.  I have tried it from several sites, including sumex-aim, the mirror at
wuarchive and several others.  I always have the same problem.  This
problem is independent of when I try to get them, or from which machine.

Has anyone else had problems, or if you could get them, could you mail them
to me?  Thanks a bunch.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1993 11:38:35 -0400 (EDT)
From: LAN Supervisor <[e-mail]>
Subject: HELP! Cannot access file server

Hi,

We seem to have a problem with one of our machines. It cannot access the
file server. (We're on a Novell server, running NetWare 3.11.)

We are using System 6.08, AppleShare 2.02.

In summary, this is the problem:

1. We go into Chooser.
2. We select AppleShare.
3. We choose the server name and click on OK. (The user name is already
   entered.)
4. We receive the following message:

    Some AppleShare resources were not
    installed at system startup time. Try
    restarting from an AppleShare workstation
    disk or reinstall the workstation software.

I've already reinstalled the system software TWICE!

Help!

Josephine Colmenares / Fordham University
[e-mail] / [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: 8 Apr 1993 11:50:42 U
From: "Kaufman Peter" <[e-mail]>
Subject: How to open a WP rather than TeachText by default? (A)

>This should be an easy question for you ResEdit'ers out there.
>How can I change the default for opening generic TEXT files from
>TeachText to my favorite word processor?

Make a copy of the Finder. Open it with ResEdit and open the 'fmap' resource.
Go
to resource #17010. Examine the decimal code to the right of the hex. There is
an entry TEXTttxt. "ttxt" is the creator type of TeachText. Change it to the
word processor of your choice, e.g., MSWD is Microsoft Word.

Regards,
Peter Kaufman
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1993 20:22:32 -0400 (EDT)
From: LAN Supervisor <[e-mail]>
Subject: How to open a WP rather than TeachText by default? (Q)

> How can I change the default for opening generic TEXT files from
> TeachText to my favorite word processor?

1. Launch ResEdit and open a copy of the Finder.
2. Open the "fmap" resource window.
3. Click once on fmap #17010.
4. Select "Open Using Hex Editor" from the Resource menu.

You will see the following:

   TEXTttxt
   PICTttxt
   00000000

TEXTttxt indicates Teachtext (creator "ttxt") will open TEXT files. PICTttxt
indicates Teachtext will also open PICT files.

5. To have Microsoft Word open TEXT files, replace ttxt with MSWD. If you're
not sure of the creator type of your favorite word processor, launch ResEdit
and choose Get File/Folder Info from the File menu.

Much luck,

Josephine Colmenares / Fordham University
[e-mail] / [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 8 Apr 93 16:43:13 -0500
From: [e-mail] ( Payson)
Subject: HyperCard--some helpful tricks

There seems to be some discussion about the best way to remove lines from a
field, etc.

  DELETE LINE x of FIELD y -- will work in versions 2.0 and later, but not in

earlier versions.  (Of course, if you're designing a stack using 2.0 compat-
ibility with earlier versions is alas nonexistent anyway).  Anyway, there
are a couple of other ways to do this.

PUT LINE x OF FLD Y INTO LINE x TO x+1 OF FLD Y

will take out like x+1 of field y; although this is somewhat kludgy, there are
times when this approach works well.  The key is to replace carriage returns
with something else.  Also, to FIND a blank line anywhere except at the very
end of a field, you can search for RETURN & RETURN.  Putting empty into one
of those returns will delete the blank line.

Another feature which people often desired in 1.x and is not avaiable in 2.x
is the ability to tell if something is a valid number (since arithmetic with
non-numbers will crash a stack).  Actually, there are easy ways to do this in
1.x.  If you wish to see whether something is an integer, try

  IF something = something & ".0"

To check whether it's a positive number, try

  IF "10" & something > "9" & something THEN ...

Etc.  These approaches work because HyperCard does numeric comparison on
things
which "look" like numbers.  This sometimes has strange effects.  For example,
  "10" < "5x" < "9" < "10"  [anyone writing a sort routine needs to be aware
                 of this one]

Anyway, if anyone needs more [slightly longwinded perhaps] help with
HyperCard,
feel free to email me.  [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 07 Apr 93 23:38:41 EDT
From: Allan Hunter <[e-mail]>
Subject: If I were only a hacker I know what I would do...

In response to my wailings about a solution to the slow response-time
after selecting Control Panel under System 6 (with worries that my
penchant for nice add-ons will only make it longer and slower over
time), the only good suggestion I got was to use Gatekeeper Application
which can open single CPs and automatically opens those last opened.
Unfortunately, Gtkpr App takes too long to suit me, too...longer than
going the usual route.  I'm impatient:  I want access to them suckers
like RIGHT NOW!

If I knew how, I'd write an INIT or a replacement DA that would FIX the
Control Panel problem, yeah I would...no more System 6 waiting for the
whole damn thing to land on your screen, no more System 7 waiting for
the CPs and then double-clicking (better than Sys 6 but still awkward
and inelegant).  I'd make it so that when you select Control Panel
under the Apple menu, a pop-to-the-side submenu would appear listing
the Control Panels in a scrollable list, with "Open All" at the top
and the option of selecting just the one you want running down below
in an order you set with user prefs.  Until you select one, the memory
isn't reaching for anything more complicated than the list and the prefs
file.

Yo, for this I would pay shareware fees with exquisite enthusiasm.  Hell,
I'd pay commercial software bucks for it, for that matter.  (Hey, is
this, perhaps, the kind of thinking that leads folks down the primrose
path to hackerdom?  But I don't know HOW to program!!...)

- Allan Hunter

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1993 04:29:45 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Kiran Wagle)
Subject: In defense of the Adjustable Kbd

I've just had the good fortune to try an Adjustable Keyboard and I'm busily
looking for one of my own.  This is SUCH an improvement on the standard
keyboards to easily be worth twice the price.  I'll let you decide for
yourself about the feel of the keys--I haven't liked the feel of any keys
since the original IBM PC keyboard's.

To address a few of the specific objections raised on this list:

(1)  For those of us who thing the Extended Keyboard is a land yacht, and
who never use the function keys or even the keypad, this keyboard is just
about the right size.  It's not much bigger than my Apple ADB Keyboard....
in fact, it might be smaller in length, since it doesn't have that stupid
keypad on the end.

(2) I don't have a keyboard to try it, but it seems that one could remap
the Caps Lock key to server as the Control key, the Control key as the Esc
key, and the Esc key as the best friend of all those brain-dead people who
insist we continue to support libraries of Fortran punch cards, namely the
caps lock key.

(3) Not providing fasteners for the fins was indeed stupid.  But hey, it's
a piece of stupidity which can be fixed with a bit of duct tape or some
chewing gum.  So stop complaining and do it already. :-)

(*) The new mouse is vastly more responsive than the old one.  I can hardly
wait to get it home and use it with Mouse2. Whee!

~ Kiran <[e-mail]>
--
"The Loon bobs up in the surf on dark nights, ruins your summer with
 a burst of wild maniacal laughter, then dives and waits for the next
 victim.  And he wonders why people shoot at him."
 .................Will Cuppy, _How to Tell Your Friends from the Apes_

Kiran Wagle                                   <[e-mail]>
P.O.Box 2083 Bloomington IN USA 47402-2083    [phone]

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 08 Apr 93 12:37:38 PDT
From: Tim Rushing <[e-mail]>
Subject: I need bracket to put hard drive in LC

I need 4 brackets to let me put a Seagate Model ST325N
hard drive in an LC.  The LCs were special ordered without
hard drives.  Now we want to put some in, but we don't
have the proper bracket.  We purchased the drives from
Relax Technologies in California, and they don't crry
the necessary part.

Anyone know of a supplier out there?

Tim Rushing
IALC Microlab Coordinator
Washington State University

Internet:  [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1993 15:17:39 +1000
From: [e-mail] (Colin McLaughlin)
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V11 #74

At  7:05 PM 5-4-93 -0700, The Moderators wrote:
>Subject: [*] conflict-catcher-139a.hqx
>
>Conflict Catcher DEMO 1.39a
>[Moderator:  Please replace version 1.39 with this 1.39a.]
>
>New Demo Version!  Download Conflict Catcher and let's get to work
>on your startup file problems!

I am having problems with this file and I was wondering if anyone else is.
It works fine until I try to create a set. It then produces a F-Line Bomb
as soon as I click OK after naming the set.

I have had several attempts and the same result. It seems pretty nifty but
I thought it was supposed to avoid bombs not create them. Silly me. I gave
up on Crash Guard for the same reason - that it is it created more crashes
than it avoided. Maybe I am too adventurous with my init collection but
these type of programs are meant to resolve problems not add to them. I
also tried out HELP! but it seemed to generate a lot of useless information
such as reporting on multiple copies of inits stored outside the System
Folder. What is supposed to be so dangerous about having such files in
another folder anyway.

Sorry that this has turned out into a winge but I got carried away.

PPS  Just downloaded 139a and it seems to be OK I previously had 1.39. Just
thought I should let you know.
Colin McLaughlin
University of Western Sydney
Booloobidja Aboriginal Education Centre
61 2 772 9415 PHONE     [phone] FAX
[e-mail]

This is a M F Z
Do your bit to rid Macs of the Microsoft curse

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1993 00:29:33 -0400
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V11 #75

You could try the following (may or may not work).
Get the TGE-TCP tool which is a comm toolbox tool that fakes serial
connections over TCP/IP, then get a comm toolbox aware app (like termy)
and the comm toolbox Y-modem tool (sorry no freeware Z-modem tool
available yet) All these can be found at sumex-aim or any other fine ftp
site.

TGE-TCP tool is still a little iffy and sometimes doesn't work, but may
do wht you want.

Maynard

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1993 14:51:25 +1000
From: [e-mail] (Colin McLaughlin)
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V11 #76

At  7:40 PM 7-4-93 -0700, The Moderators wrote:
>Date: Wed, 7 Apr 93 22:07:20 BST
>From: G Marsden (PG) <[e-mail]>
>Subject: File Sharing
>
>Hi there.
>
>share a give file/folder at once. Is this a freak of our setup, or is it
>an undocumented feature of the file sharing in system 7? What we would
>really like to do is allow a whole class of students to access the files
>for a given tutorial from a shared folder on a server. Is the too much
>to ask or should we start killing off students until there are only ten
>left. All suggestions greatfully received.
>
>Many thanks,
>Gary.
>
>Gary Marsden  ( [e-mail] )
>Dept. of Computing Science,
>Uni. of Stirling, Scotland.


Sorry but this is a DOCUMENTED feature. You can only share with 10 users at
a time. If you want to have more you have to purchase the Apple Share File
Server 3.0 (or Data Club)
Colin McLaughlin
University of Western Sydney
Booloobidja Aboriginal Education Centre
61 2 772 9415 PHONE     [phone] FAX
[e-mail]

This is a M F Z
Do your bit to rid Macs of the Microsoft curse

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1993 14:54:59 +1000
From: [e-mail] (Colin McLaughlin)
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V11 #76

At  7:40 PM 7-4-93 -0700, The Moderators wrote:
>Date: Wed, 7 Apr 93 15:35:48 PDT
>From: [e-mail] (Serdar Uckun)
>Subject: How to open a WP rather than TeachText by default? (Q)
>
>This should be an easy question for you ResEdit'ers out there.
>How can I change the default for opening generic TEXT files from
>TeachText to my favorite word processor?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Serdar Uckun, Knowledge Systems Laboratory, Stanford University
>[e-mail]

Yo don't need to fiddle around with Resedit. There are several utilities
e.g.Adam Stein's  System 7 Pack which I use, which can easily do this and
much more. You will need to remove Teach Text though or it will keep using
it instead.
Colin McLaughlin
University of Western Sydney
Booloobidja Aboriginal Education Centre
61 2 772 9415 PHONE     [phone] FAX
[e-mail]

This is a M F Z
Do your bit to rid Macs of the Microsoft curse

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1993 15:02:06 +1000
From: [e-mail] (Colin McLaughlin)
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V11 #76

At  7:40 PM 7-4-93 -0700, The Moderators wrote:
>Date: 07 Apr 1993 15:40:31 -0700 (MST)
>From: [e-mail]
>Subject: Need more seiral ports..suggestions?
>
>Hi all, I own a laser print, midi interface, and a modem.  My Mac IIci only
>has 2 serial ports.  I don't like unplugging/replugging all the time, so
>I am open to suggestions.
>
>I have seen the ads in MacWarehouse for the Axion serial switching device
>that lets you have 3 things plugged into one port.  It says that if your
>program supposts the Comm Toolbox, it will automatically select the right
>peripherial (i.e. My midi program would turn on the port connected to my
>midi interface, my terminal program would automatically turn on the port
>for my modem, etc.)
>My question about this is...How good is it? Compatability etc. (it appears
>to use an init/control panel)?  How can I tell if my programs are comm
>toolbox savvy and how would I tell each program which port to pick?  Also, is
>the printmonitor in the System configurable like this (i.e. could I plug
>multiple things into an axion plug in my printer port, and when I print,  the
>system would automatically turn on the port for the printer)?
>
>Thanks in adv.-I will summarize if there is interest...
>
>                Aric Friesen

 I use a Quadralink Nubus Card in my IIci and it works fine. It gives you 4
extra serial/printer ports.
Colin McLaughlin
University of Western Sydney
Booloobidja Aboriginal Education Centre
61 2 772 9415 PHONE     [phone] FAX
[e-mail]

This is a M F Z
Do your bit to rid Macs of the Microsoft curse

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 08 Apr 93 09:49:15 EDT
From: Don DeMaio <[e-mail]>
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V11 #76

I used Macintax once, as a correlation to the work that my accountant does.
I just wanted to see if it could calculate my tax correctly and, if so, I
would consider not paying an accountant to do my taxes.

In fact, Macintax had a major error in my returns that my accountant
spotted. Had I sent in the Macintax return, the figures would have been
off by hundreds of dollars. I'm not sure why this occurred. After seeing
the return that my accountant computed, I went back to the software and
asked it several times to recompute. It kept coming up with the same error.

Finally, I went to the worksheets and posted my figures a second time.
Macintax then calculated everything correctly. This tells me that there is
something seriously wrong with the software.

I tried dealing with the company on this and found them to be generally
a sarcastic and disinterested group. I threw the software out.

------------------------------

Date: Thu,  8 Apr 1993 14:42:31 +0100
From: Elliot Bennett <[e-mail]>
Subject: In Use 2.0 & CPF incompatibility...

I complained a few issues back that In Use 2.0 was not working on my Duo's
built-in (LCD) screen (you can only see the hard disk icon flicker in the menu
bar if you hold the cursor over it) but worked just fine on the 13" Apple RGB
attached to my Duo Dock.

Well, it turns out (and I would like to take this opportunity to thank the
many people who responded to me directly) that In Use works just fine on the
LCD screen if I turn off CPU.  Why CPU conflicts with In Use and ONLY on the
internal screen is a REAL mystery to me.

Using Startup Manager to load In Use before CPU didn't help.  Any other ideas
to solve this problem are more than welcome!

Elliot Bennett
DLR, Cologne, Germany
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1993 14:07 EST
From: E=MC^2 <[e-mail]>
Subject: lf - what is the code for (A) - summary

Dear Netters,

LFs are indeed line - feeds.  They have a code of ^10, for those who want to
do a find/replace to remove them.  They move to the beginning of the next
column, vs. carriage return which is the beginning of the next row (at the
left side of the left margin).   Macs
nornally don't have LF codes, though PCs use both LFs and CRs.  Thus when you
retrieve an unreadable DOS text file you will get both the LF and CR codes
intermingled with each other.  2 of the people who answered back told me that
UNIX opperates with no CRs and only LFs.  Also KGraff mentioned a shareware
utility that will remove LF -
>John Wind's shareware utility Add/Strip 2.9.2.
However, I am unaware of which directory to find this utility.
If someone knows where this utility may be found, please post it to the net.

Thanks to PJorgensen, IrBloom,
MFleming, KGraff and others for this info.

Sincerely,

ABRODY @ CLARKU

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 8 Apr 93 15:52:22 PDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: MacInTax, doesn't suprise me!

 I gave up on MacInTax (and ChipSoft) forever, last year. The program
would not print a "decent" form on the DeskWriter and for me it was the
last straw. I've slowly (and sadly) watched what was arguably the best
Tax program, on any platform, sink away. What did it for me, last year,
was the technical support person telling me I would just have to live
with the way the output was, there would be no fix. This year, I used
Meca's TaxCut and was pleasnatly surprised. Sure the program has some
rough edges but, overall, it is supported better and does what I need
it to. Money back or not, I won't spend another dime on MacInTax.

<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
John Hausmann             Internet - [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 8 Apr 93 09:34:53 -0400
From: "Steve Marsh"  <[e-mail]>
Subject: MacInTax problems (c)

A couple of netters recently stated that MacInTax worked for them with no
problems. That is all well and good, but the issue is that it gives SOME
people
problems SOME of the time! This is unacceptable for critical financial
programs
like tax software. For a little perspective, remember the functions of a tax
program: It presents guided dialogs, links input data between various database
fields, imports data, and prints nice forms. Therefore, any serious conflicts
with inits, particularly when manipulating numerical data, is inexcuseable!
Also, MacInTax has been around for a number of years. "Getting it out" each
new
tax season is no more complicated than adding the minor revisions that modify
the tax forms, calculations, and dialogs. Hardly a formidable task, and they
have the entire "off season" to remedy all bugs reported the previous year.
So,
what's their excuse??

I used to use MacInTax, but switched to TaxCut this year. Although its not
perfect, I've had no problems with it and haven't heard of any bugs in the
program from anyone else. No messy installation procedures, font problems,
conflicts, nothing. All this from a program that is in it's FIRST year as a
Mac
product. Again, what is ChipSoft's excuse?? It's a moot point for me
personally,
because I'm not going back.

Disclaimers apply, as I'm just a TaxCut (satisfied) and former MacInTax
(dissatisfied/annoyed)  user.

- Steve Marsh  "[e-mail]"   ;-)

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1993 05:39:55 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Aaron L Dickey)
Subject: MacIntercomm Lite (Q) (was Re: Mac's Place (C))

[e-mail] writes:

>That was a week ago, and the truth is that I haven't seen either yet, but
>another call assured me that they are both on their way.

>-Avram Dorfman ([e-mail])

When it does arrive, could you drop a little note to the list telling us
if anything inside the package helps to resolve the issue of just who, if
anyone, now owns/maintains this program?

Thanks,

--Aaron

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1993 17:00 EST
From: E=MC^2 <[e-mail]>
Subject: MacIntosh C Programmers (Q)

Dear Netters (programmers especially),
I recentally found a place with "The MacIntosh C Programming Primer Vol II".
I wondered is there any info not covered in Volume II that is covered in
Volume I that is pertinant to programming in today's programming environment.
I am just beginning to teach myself C using Think C, and Thin C and Think
Reference.  In other words would it be best for a first time C programmer to
start off with Vol I or II, if they have an LC and System 7?  I have already
some good experience programming in Pascal and Basic on VAX/ 220 and Apple
 II's respectively in the past.
Thank you.

Sincerely,

ABRODY @ CLARKU

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 8 Apr 93 10:48:48 EDT
From: Matthew B Cravit <[e-mail]>
Subject: Macintosh Grade Disks

> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1993 17:15:20 -0400
> From: [e-mail] (Ken B Kirksey)
> Subject: Macintosh Grade Disks?
>
> I just got the new MEI/MicroCenter catalog today and noticed something
> rather interesting.  It seems that they've devided their 3.5" disks into
> two groups:  PC grade and Premium Macintosh/Duplicator grade.  The prices
> go like so:
>
>         DS/DD PC Grade : $0.39@     DS/HD PC Grade  : $0.49@
>         DS/DD Mac Grade: $0.45@     DS/HD Mac Grade : $0.57@
>
> A call to MEI confirmed my suspicion about the grading:  the disks
> come from the same lots, but the Mac/Duplicator grade disks undergo
> more testing.  The salesperson I talked to said that "the Mac drives
> are much more sensitive than the PC drives and need disks that meet
> higher testing standards." Hmm...
>
> So, I'm I just cynical, or are they trying to gouge Mac owners
> for an extra 6-8 cents per disk?  Or are Mac drives really that much
> more "sensitive" (whatever that means) and the extra testing
> makes a difference?

In my experience, Macintosh drives (or maybe it's the way the OS is written)
DO
have more trouble initializing disks with one or two bad sectors than do PCs.
They also seem to have much more difficulty reading marginal disks.

So, it is possible that MEI is in fact selling the slightly defective disks to
PC users, whose machines are better able to deal with marginal disks.

This is just my experience, however.

/MC

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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1993 08:57:15 EDT
From: "Jeffrey N. Fritz" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Mac vs PC Floppies (A)

Ken B Kirksey asked:

> So, I'm I just cynical, or are they trying to gouge Mac owners
> for an extra 6-8 cents per disk? Or are Mac drives really that much
> more "sensitive" (whatever that means) and the extra testing
> makes a difference?

We run multiple PCs and Macs in our ISDN Lab.  We have found that, yes,
Macs are much more sensitive to disk errors than their PC counterparts.
This holds true for both DD and HD disks.  It seems that the Mac OS is
much more attuned to potential disk problems and, therefore, more careful
as to what it accepts from a floppy when it is formatted.  Frequently,
we will take a disk that a Mac rejected and format it with a PC without
problems.

For my money, I am much more comfortable with Apple's approach.  I am
not an expert on this, but I feel that disks that fail on the Mac but
pass on the PC are headed for trouble down the road.  Therefore, when
a Mac rejects a disk, I trash it unless I plan to use it for non critical
data on the PC.  This is especially true with the HD floppies.

Jeff Fritz
West Virginia University

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Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1993 08:05:53 EDT
From: "Lisa L.W. Besko" <[e-mail]>
Subject: MacX,MacTCP and system 7.1

There is a patch kit available from DEC for Pathworks that contains new
versions
of Mail for Macintosh, MacX and MacTCP that support system 7.1.  The PATHWORKS
for Macintosh V1.1a kit contains these items.  This kit may fix the Remote
command problem.

In the recent PATHWORKS NETWORK NEWS letter they mentioned that a new version
of
PATHWORKS for the Mac will be out soon, does anyone have any details on what
the
new version will fix and when it will be out?

Lisa Besko

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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 93 08:14:15 +0000
From: Mike Brudenell <[e-mail]>
Subject: MacX 1.1.7, MacTCP 1.1.1 and System 7.1 (A)

Thank you all for your messages and help!

The problem was that MacX 1.1.7, MacTCP 1.1.1 and System 7.1 weren't
interworking very well: MacX wouldn't let me configure Remote Commands.
Apparently there may be other problems too.

The solution is to upgrade MacX to version 1.2.  Version 1.1.7 "sort of"
works,
but 1.2 is fully System 7.1 compatible.  Roll on!

                        Mike B-)

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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1993 20:01:11 -0400 (EDT)
From: LAN Supervisor <[e-mail]>
Subject: Madness


> Here's the problem:  I called the number on the disk and the phone just
> rings and rings--no help from Me & John.  Are they still in business?
> If so, anyone know how to contact them?  If not, anyone know how to defeat
> the copy protection scheme?  The is a bullshit way to sell software, IMHO!

Gee, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but Madness has gone commercial. Its
new name is Insanity and it is published by UV Wave. (I don't know if this
company is affiliated with Me & John.) Their phone number is [phone].
(Sorry, I didn't find an 800 number.)

Josephine Colmenares / Fordham University
[e-mail] / [e-mail]

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Date: Thu, 08 Apr 93 09:32:16 EST
From: Pete Tamas <[e-mail]>
Subject: Modem & Postscript printer recommendations

I need to recommend a modem and a postscript printer.

Anyone have any experience with Focus and/or there 14.4 Data+Fax
modem? It goes for $299. (1-800-235-3707 in case you want to know).

How about Postscript printers? I know there are a lot of good ones
out there, I just do not want to recommend one (implicitly or explicitly)
without someone having said that they have one and it works.

Thanks, Pete Tamas

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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1993 18:47 GMT
From: Fergus Sullivan <[e-mail]>
Subject: My greedy System Heap--Help still needed.

Firstly, many thanks to the very many people who gave me valuable advice on
why
a System Heap grows after startup.  My main concern now is to discover how to
make it shrink.  The System Heap still sometimes grows to 2,100K.  I can then
use Swatch to free up unnecessary space.  Balloon help then tells me that my
System Heap then uses only about 1250k of the 2100k allocated to it.  I know
that in System 6.0.x this allocation would never reduce itself, but understood
that with 7.0 it did.  I'm running 7.1 and no matter how long I leave the mac
alone, the System Heap _never_ reduces.

What am I doing wrong?  Is there anything I can do to tell the system to
bugger
off and leave it's unwanted RAM alone?

All advice gratefully received.  Composite posting promised when I get to the
bottom of it all.

Fergus Sullivan.
Wet, drizzly, misty Dublin.  Where did Spring go?

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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1993 14:28:26 -0400 (EDT)
From: Benjamin White <[e-mail]>
Subject: New Inside Mac Books

Hi all,

I have a quick question for those of you who have experience with the new
set of Inside Mac books.  I have the old set (I-V) that is about ready to
fall apart, and am considering investing in the new set.

I would appreciate any feedback on the volumes, especially about which ones
you have found the most useful compared to the old set.

Thanks in advance, please respond to me and I'll write a summary for the net.

Ben White
The Johns Hopkins School of Medicine
[e-mail]

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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1993 22:59:20 -0400 (EDT)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Opinions on Select 300 vs. 310

I'm looking to get a laser for home use. I mainly print
technical reports with graphs, circuit diagrams, etc.

I would like to know which is going to give the better
output, the fineprint or Postscript level 1. I understand
that the fineprint is supposed to emulate greater than 300
dpi by adjusting dot positions, etc., but will Postscript
do better? Could someone with either a 300 or 310 give me
some feedback...thank you

Richard Schaaf
University of Vermont
EE Department

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Date: 8 Apr 1993 14:59:47 -0500
From: "Scott Bresnahan" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Programmers- Get in CNTL!

Mail*Link(r) SMTP               Programmers- Get in CNTL!
Hi,

   Does anyone out there have any good, well-written
control definitions to handle things like picture
buttons, picture checkboxes, picture etc, 3d shadow
buttons for BOTH b/w and color environments.  For
that matter, do you have something else that you're
proud of, think is useful, and would like to share?

   I've got so many things to worry about other
than buttons and whistles that I just don't have
time to spend writing them.

   Else, thanks anyway.

   --Scott Bresnahan
     TERC

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Date: Thu, 08 Apr 93 07:25:29 PDT
From: Jerry Tangren <GSW$[e-mail]>
Subject: RunPC/Remote--experiences?

In the June 5 I-M digest Shekhar Govind ([e-mail]) highly
endorsed a product known as RunPC/Remote which runs your PeeCee off the
serial port of the Mac--your old PeeCee becomes a peripheral instead of
a doorstop. I have not seen RunPC mentioned since this posting and my
Apple dealer (a fairly progressive chap) never heard of it. Is it
still available? Shekhar Govind likes it, any others?

Jerry Tangren
<gsw$[e-mail]>

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Date: 8 Apr 1993 13:47:48 CST
From: "Harry Hahn"  <[e-mail]>
Subject: Shareware wish list

In IM #74 Alan Hunter ([e-mail]) wrote:

>3.  I sure do love those cdevs!  I may not have the hundred-or-so
>extensions that some folks were bragging about here of late, but I
>runenough of them that my little 68000-powered SE isn't too swift
>about tossing the CP up onto the screen when I ask it to.  Gee,
>wouldn't it be nice if someone would write a System-6 CP interface
>so that System-6 users could get to the cdev controls they want
>without having to raise up the whole zoo in the process?  Richard
>Harvey's AliasInstall is a good start; now if there was a way to
>con System 6 into tossing those aliases up into the Apple-DA menu
>as System 7 would, so that the most commonly needed CP's become
>DA's, that would be an entirely workable solution, especially in
>conjunction with that INIT that lets more than 15 DA's be working
>under the Apple menu (speaking of which, where the >hell did it go?
>I know it's hiding in the archives somewhere...)

You know, I use to have the same problem when I had an SE. It really
made me think twice before opening the control panel. Good news is
that I found something that sped up the process. It was a control
panel substitute called Waitless that stored much of the control
panel information somewhere for quicker access. Only hitch is that
if you installed a new control panel, it would have to update the
list, but since this is infrequent, it was a small price to pay.
Plus, it could zap your PRAM without you having to memorize whatever
the key combination is.

There was also another cdev called GooPanel that was released while
System 7 was still beta. It allowed control panels to be opened
individually under system 6. Maybe something like this in
conjunction with AliasInstall would do what you want? I'm not
familiar with AliasInstall.

The bad news is: I don't know where you can get a hold of these two
programs. I've upgraded hardwarek, have been using System 7 for
sometime now, and have junked most of my system 6 only stuff. I got
them off the BMUG BBS back in 1990-91. I've since left Berkeley and
as I understand it, the BMUG BBS has undergone some major changes in
that time so I don't know if it would still be available. They may
still have it available in their disk collection. Or maybe someone
else reading this digest can upload them?

I apologize if this is a tease but I'll keep my eye out for them. I
have some friends who still run Sys6 and I may have passed them on
to them.

Luck,
Harry Hahn

[e-mail]     |
UW-Madison, Dept. of AH&BS  |

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Date: 08 Apr 1993 11:50:27 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Michael A. McGuire" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Shutdown Extension (Q)

OK, I give up.  I have looked, I think, everywhere for an extension that
does the following.  After a Macintosh has set idle, no mouse or keyboard
inputs, for a settable amount of time, this extension should do a clean
shutdown of the Macintosh. Would someone please show me the error of my ways
and point me in the direction of such a beast.  Thanks.


Michael A. McGuire, :-)
[e-mail]
UTCC - User Services

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1993 06:38:05 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Peter N Lewis)
Subject: So, what's a MUD ?

Shih Tung writes:

>  Could someone tell us bystanders what exactly a MUD is?

MUD stands for Multi User Dongeon or Multi User Dimension depending on
who you ask.  They set up a virtual world (like a cross between D&D
and a text based adventure game, often with very impressive parsers).
and allow multiple people to connect to them over the Internet.  The
virtual world and goals on each mud are different, they vary from
adverturing (quite similar to D&D, wander around, slay monsters, solve
quests, join up in parties to take on stronger monsters, etc), thru to
social settings (some are almost like singles bars, very weird).  LPMUDs
are comonly the former type, other muds are usually the latter type, at
least in my very limited experience (I've only seen about 10 MUDs all
up, and there are hundreds of others).

For more information, read the rec.games.mud* news groups.
   Peter.
PS: Be warned, as with D&D and adventure games, they can be quite
addictive, and quite often lead to failed exams...
--
_______________________________________________________________________
Peter N Lewis <[e-mail]>           Ph: [phone]

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Date: 08 Apr 1993 09:52:38 -0700 (MST)
From: ALAN LEVINE <[e-mail]>
Subject: Software for reading

A Humanities/Communication instructor at one of our community
colleges is reviewing the use of computer technology to improve
reading comprehenision and higher-level thinking skills. This is
aimed to help students in their understanding of long, complex
passages typical of academic reading. Please pass on (directly) to
me any commercial packages related to critical reading skills that
you may be aware of or applications being developed by teachers (in
whatever stage of completion). Send directly to me. Thanks!!
alan levine                           [e-mail] [Internet]
maricopa community college district

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Date: Fri, 9 Apr 93 0:45 BST
From: RICHARD LIM <[e-mail]>
Subject: Spot-On disk formatting software

I wonder if anyone out there has experience of a disk formatting utility
called Spot-On, which a friend of mine was supplied with to format a new
gigabyte drive he's installing in a Quadra 950.  He's had enormous problems
trying to get the drive into a usable state - the Installer frequently hangs
when installing the system software, and common applications don't seem to
be able to read/write to the drive correctly, resulting in numerous crashes.

He's passed the machine on to me to have a look at, and while I can't
reformat the drive because I don't know if he's backed up what's already on
it, I have established the following:

(1)  The drive doesn't appear to have any bad blocks nor catalog errors.

(2)  When you try to install the System software, the Installer either
freezes during the process or else it fails because some of the old files
can't be replaced.  If you do a clean install (ie delete the old System
Folder) the Installer freezes anyway.

(3)  If you delete the System Folder, the boot blocks still say the disk
is bootable (for some odd reason).  If you edit the boot blocks to remove
the "LK" boot signature, then try to install the system software, surprise
surprise - the installation is completed successfully.  When you restart
the computer, you get an address error within 2 seconds of the happy Mac
icon appearing.

My personal guess is that there's some kind of conflict between Spot-On's
SCSI driver and System 7.0.1 which I'm trying to install.  The version of
Spot-On I have is 2.2, which is supposed to be 7.0.x-compatible.  Is there
a newer version which might fix these problems?  Does my having to manually
fix the boot blocks hold any clues?  And if we decide to dispense with Spot-
On, will Apple's HD Setup cope with formatting a gigabyte drive?

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 08 Apr 93 14:26:30 EST
From: Pete Tamas <[e-mail]>
Subject: SPSS on Mac (summary & follow-up question)

Many people have replied that they are happy with SPSS on the Mac,
with the caveat that "if you are used to it on other platforms,
you'll be happy" or something to that effect.

My brother will probably buy an LC III with FPU. Is it possible to
get a Centris 610 with FPU? If not, will the 610 still perform
better than the LC III due to 68040 instead of 68030?

Thanks again, Pete Tamas

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 8 Apr 93 14:39:23 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: System7 Sharing Log (Q)

Does anyone know of a program which logs activity to the System7 file
sharing capability?  Or any program which password protects your users
and groups / file sharing setup control panels?

"It is impossible to make anything foolproof, because fools are
so damned ingenious..."

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 7 Apr 93 21:10:31 PDT
From: [e-mail] (Hung-Yao Wu)
Subject: Upgrade Mac IIsi

Hi,
    Now I think my Mac IIsi is getting old. I want to know whether Apple
will have an upgrade plan for the Mac IIsi, or just treat it like an orphan.

    If Apple doesn't afford a plan to upgrade, I want to know whether a
50MHz 030 accelerator or a 25MHz 040 accelerator is better. Besides, will
there be any incompatiblity problems if my system speed up?

    If any one had the experience upgrading the Mac IIsi, your recommen-
dation, experience, and suggestion is welcomed. There are  a lot of cards
available so I don't know how to choose.

    Thanks in advance. Please reply the mail to '[e-mail]'.

/WU

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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1993 07:42:18 +0000
From: Nick Rothwell <[e-mail]>
Subject: US software retailers, mail order

>A little over a week ago, I asked for information on US software retailers
who
>had mail order available to non-US customers who wished to order through
>email.
>There were two main responses:
>        MacWarehouse:  [e-mail]
>        Mac's Place:   [e-mail]

I would personally avoid MacWarehouse on principle, since MacWarehouse UK
is grossly overpriced; they send out the US catalogue with all the dollar
signs changed to pounds, the numbers made bigger in a lot of cases, and
there are lots of US products which are useless in the UK (such as power
supplies and tax programs) despite having (high) prices in pounds, as well
as things marked "Not available in the UK", such as many of the special
offers.

Mac's Place I've used when in the US. They are very good. Recommended.

            Nick Rothwell   |   [e-mail]
     CASSIEL Contemporary Music/Dance   |   [e-mail]

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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1993 08:57:16 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Jan Steinman, Bytesmiths)
Subject: WARNING: MACINTAX (yet another horror story)

Just Say No to incompetent software!

I used MacInTax two years ago, and was quite happy with it. Then ChipSoft
decided it could monopolize the Mac tax-prep business by buying their
competitor. I faithfully purchased the 1991 version and had so many troubles
that I did the entire return by hand. It completely trashed my return three
times, forcing me to start over. It would not allow me to delete some data,
forcing me to enter offsetting amounts in order to set things right. (It
arbitrarily decided I had made a lot of money renting a house, and nothing I
could do, short of entering an offsetting amount, would change its mind!)
There were numerous, frustrating crashes.

All in all, I estimate that it took me much longer to do my 1991 taxes with
MacInTax than it would have taken without -- this is *not including* the
time I took to manually do the entire return because I didn't trust MacInTax!

Two weeks ago, I received an audit for that return. I removed all my INITs
and fired up MacInTax to see what happened. I had left a "what if" adjustment
to my income, and it *did not* show up as estimate or modified field. Now
I have to pay at least ten times the price of MacInTax in interest and
penalties.

Although I don't have the actual amount, I remember that my phone bills to
their customer support were larger than the purchase price, because I added
them up and sent them a bill, which they ignored.

I swore I would *never* purchase another ChipSoft product. This year, I was
delighted to see they have new competition, so I purchased TaxCut. It does not
have as many features as the original MacInTax before ChipSoft destroyed it,
but it is stable and trustworthy. I recommend it over MacInTax to anyone who
thinks software should be useful!

Jan Steinman, Bytesmiths

------------------------------

Date: 8 Apr 93 02:59:05 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Jeffrey D Miller)
Subject: Weirdness with Aliases

I have a rather strange problem for the wizards in net-land. My PB100,
running Sys. 7.1 locks up when I try to launch certain prgrams via their
aliases.  What makes this very strange is that the crash occurs only when
the alias is in the Apple menu folder. If I take the same alias out of
the folder and put in on the desktop, the program happily launches. This
problem has happened with MSWord, StorySpace and FirstClass.  I am very
puzzled.  Any suggestions will be appreciated.

Jeff Miller/[e-mail]

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Date: 8 Apr 1993 16:04:54 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Terence P Higgins)
Subject: why the lousy password?

    Will the person who posted the Jerome's Journal stack to the sumex
info-mac archive please send me or post the DARN password required to use
the thing?? At the risk of ranting I'd have to say I wonder why anyone
bothers making this sort of thing available if it requires a DARN password
to get it to [e-mail]

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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1993 08:46:26 -0600
From: [e-mail]
Subject: yacc for the Mac

>I think the subject line says it all: I'm looking for the unix YACC (Yet
>Another Compiler Compiler) for the Mac.

Try bison, the GNU version of yacc. Bison is available in the sumex
archives (along with its old friend flex), and can also be obtained from
ftp.apple.com.

Bison and flex run under MPW, which is great if you are an MPW user but
difficult if you are not. There have been a number of stand-alone versions
of both lex and yacc floating around over the years; I have an old (1986)
version of 'Mac Yacc' stashed away, along with some home-grown ugly-but-
functional yacc clones.

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